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KUNC
- Community Radio for Northern Colarado
Kirk Mowers - Program Director
Kyle Dyas - Music Director
SJ.COM:
Tell us about your market. What range does KUNC cover?
Kyle:
Our market is really diverse. From working ranches to high technology
and everything in between.
Kirk:
We have a really good reach with over thirteen translators across the
front range and beyond. (Translators are strategically placed transmitters
to extend the listening range of KUNC.) From the Greeley/Ft. Collins area
to Breckenridge, Steamboat Springs, Vail, Yuma, Cheyene. You can even
listen to us on the Internet.
SJ.COM:
KUNC is a public radio station?
Kirk:
We are. We have been an affiliate of NPR (National Public Radio) for nearly
20 years.
SJ.COM:
How long have you been with the station?
Kirk:
16 years.
SJ.COM:
Kyle?
Kyle:
7 years.
SJ.COM:
Tell us about your programming. How much is NPR and how much do you program
in-house?
Kirk:
We program our own "Diverse Music" programming from 9:00 am
to 3:00 pm every week day. Additionally we run BBC World Service, All
Things Considered, World Cafe, Echoes and Jazz After Hours and on the
weekends we have additional programs that run including Prairie Home Companion
and E-Town.
SJ.COM:
Sounds like a well-rounded radio station. What musical genres make up
your "Diverse Music" programming?
Kyle:
A mix of Smooth Jazz, Folk, AAA, Classical, New Age, World.
SJ.COM:
What artists might come up in an hour?
Kirk:
(Handing over a song list from a recent two hour period of Diverse Music
programming).
On
the Smooth Jazz front, the two hours include Lee Ritenour from "Rit's
House", Patti Austin from "For Ella", and Ray Obiedo from
"Sweet Summer Days". Other artists that cross over to Smooth
Jazz on the list are Jesse Cook from "Vertigo", Julia Fordham
from "Concrete Love", Shawn Colvin from "A Whole New You",
and James Taylor from "Greatest Hits". Also included are songs
from Wayne Gratz, Marc Cohn, Johann Michael Haydn, Poncho Sanchez, Ian
Matthews, Christine Lavin, Leo Kottke, Vivaldi and The Modern Jazz Quartet.
Kyle:
We pulled away a bit from the Smooth Jazz format
because there just weren't enough solid recordings. But we didn't want
to abandon the format entirely.
We
have been trying to be selective with the Smooth Jazz and focus on the
artists that are unique. If we're going to add something to our rotation
it can't sound like everything else that's coming out.
SJ.COM:
What artists come to mind that are creating new, unique Smooth Jazz?
Kyle:
Lee
Ritenour is one that comes to mind. "Rit's House" is just great
and it totally caught me by surprise.
Kirk:
David Benoit is going on a different theme with his stuff. His music doesn't
sound the same, each recording offers a new direction with new ideas.
A
lot of the music sounds so much alike these days. You can recognize Pat
Metheny's guitar playing but you can't tell many of the sax players apart
from the others.
SJ.COM:
Couldn't help but notice that you play more than one track from a CD.
How deep will you go on an album?
Kyle:
We don't just focus on one track, we'll play the entire album if it's
right. We'll get singles mailed to us from labels and then we'll get calls
asking if we're going to play it. And my answer is always, "Waiting
on the full CD."
SJ.COM:
It seems like the labels like to work the CD for as long as possible by
servicing radio with one single at a time.
Kirk:
Yes. And they'll call us and ask, "Are you on this record?"
and we'll say, "No. We played that two years ago."
SJ.COM:
Do you play indie artists?
Kyle:
We
play a lot of independent artists. If the music sounds right we'll play
it.
SJ.COM:
Are you hearing any artists that you think will be Smooth Jazz leaders
or stars in the near future?
Kyle:
That's a challenging question because we don't often hear unique, solid
recordings. An artist by the name of Jim Adkins sort of comes to mind.
Kirk:
I'm trying to think the kind of people that would have the same impact
as a Lee Ritenour in say 5 or 6 years and I honestly can't think of anyone.
SJ.COM:
Does the Denver Smooth Jazz station come into your market?
Kirk:
We really don't pay much attention to them. We don't
even share listeners. The
2 or 3 that we share with from Denver include KBCO, KOA and the other
public station.
SJ.COM:
KBCO is a cool station. Do you like them?
Kyle:
I love them. They do a great job.
SJ.COM:
Kirk, you've seen a lot of changes in the Smooth Jazz format over the
years, from back in the day when it wasn't even called Smooth Jazz. What
is your opinion on the current station of the format?
Kirk:
I've been reading your interviews with the commercial Smooth Jazz stations
and several of the program directors are saying that they would like to
play more of this or more of that. I think that they would be surprised
if they played things that they are inclined to play. I don't think their
ratings would necessarily change, and they might actually go up.
KHIH
used to be the Smooth Jazz station in Denver and years ago, when the station
was newer, they included New Age and a good amount of vocals in their
mix. That station showed up much higher in the ratings than the new station
does now.
Back
in the day when the MAC Report existed, the format was very progressive.
But when BA moved in and started getting involved with the format the
more homogenized the music became. And artists like Willie & Lobo,
Michael Tomlinson, etc., were squeezed out.
SJ.COM:
Why do you think stations play older songs from artists like Acoustic
Alchemy and Spyro Gyra, but not the new stuff?
Kirk:
We've
been playing Acoustic Alchemy since the beginning. Their music progressed
over the years, as it should, and it's still great. I just think that
BA has helped with taking the format to a more homogenized sound.
SJ.COM:
Do you think it's doing any good, playing one saxophone song after another?
I mean is that selling any product or offering listeners an interesting
listening experience?
Kirk:
I don't think that approach is helping anyone.
SJ.COM:
Do you research your music?
Kirk:
We don't do formal research. But we do get feedback from our listeners
through email, calls, etc.
Kyle:
The feedback
we get is a good balance. Our listeners are knowledgeable and intelligent.
And they don't mind sharing that wil you.
SJ.COM:
What are you doing to connect with your community?
Kyle: We like to connect with our community on the
air by talking about what's going and actually know what's going on.
Kirk:
We host a large event every year at the end of August that benefits the
Food Bank. It's an outdoor event that's held in Loveland at an amphitheater.
You bring either a cash donation or a bag of food. We started it 11 years
ago with a Colorado band called Wind Machine. They played it every year
until they broke up and now we book other artists to perform. We draw
a good crowd.
SJ.COM:
What's the event called?
Kirk:
Tuna Fish & Peanut Butter.
SJ.COM:
Are you serious?
Kyle:
We're so used to the name that it seems perfectly normal for us. But when
someone outside hears the name, I'm sure it sounds funny.
Kirk:
We got the name because the Food Bank requests food donations that are
high in protein and tins of tuna fish and jars of peanut butter will provide
just that.
SJ.COM:
What's the best way for a new Smooth Jazz artist to develop their career?
Kyle: Play live and get that direct kind of feed
back from people. That would be at the top of my list of advice. Music
is about connecting with people, so play live and go from there.
SJ.COM:
How do you utilize Internet presence to further your radio station's image
and your programming?
Kirk: Streaming live audio. We'll also be starting
a quarterly on-line news letter soon featuring stuff about our programming.
We work with Public Interactive and they provide a template that lends
itself to NPR with a great deal of public radio content. Then we have
our local page for the station.
Kyle:
We have our PSA info on our Web site as well as an events calendar. And
anybody can go in and submit their event.
SJ.COM: What was the last live show you caught?
Kyle: Lucy Kaplansky @ The Sunset Night Club in
Ft. Collins. She just got back from London and still had jetlage but was
very focused on her performance and really into the show.
Kirk:
The Folks Festival just outside of Boulder in a beautiful outdoor venue
where a river runs through it. The festival features 3 days of great artists.
I caught Randy Newman, who is one of the funniest people I have ever seen
in my life. Also saw Amiee Mann and Catie Curtis.
SJ.COM: What's in your CD player (home or car)?
Kyle: John Mayer
Kirk:
Louis Prima
SJ.COM: Outside of radio, are you an enthusiast for anything else (wine,
golf, movies, etc.)?
Kyle: I love theater to watch it and peform it.
I also like getting outdoors - I mean we're right here next to the Rocky
Mountains.
Kirk:
I'm really into Model trains, I'm building a layout in the basement. I
work on them in the evenings and weekends. I also like to fly fish.
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